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Submitted by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on Wednesday, 10 February 2010 | Category: General

Roel van Veggel, General Manager, RaboDirect

There’s lots going on. With the big Irish banks fully occupied with NAMA, the smaller ones involved in merger talks, the announcement and immediate implementation of the Halifax withdrawal and the news that Northern Rock may possibly lift their 100% UK state guarantee, it has certainly been an eventful start to the year.

2010 will be the year of drastic but necessary restructuring within the banking sector here in Ireland. Once the storms around closures, consolidation, cost cutting and restructuring have died down, I firmly believe that there’s a responsibility on all banks to take a closer look at competitive practices here. We need to put the customer back at the heart of what we do and focus on what’s best for them.

At this point in time, Irish customers are not helped by the limited numbers of Irish players in the market coupled with the confusion around some foreign owned players who themselves have unclear direction from their parent banks who have issues of their own. In addition, we’re still not free from the stubborn tendencies many banks practice when they continue to offer unsustainable loss leading headline rates with lots of T&C’s and old fashion advertising tricks. Doesn’t exactly make for a bright future if we continue down this route. The industry as a whole needs to regain customer trust. It’s time to get back to basics.

At RaboDirect, we still see interesting opportunities within the retail banking sector on which we plan to capitalise as we continue to build on our strong position within Ireland as the straight talking online bank.

Just to be absolutely straight about this: RaboDirect has no plans to leave Ireland. In fact, we’re looking forward to expanding our online business here over the coming years. We entered the Irish market almost 5 years ago and since then we have steadily grown our customer base to over 63,000 and indeed our range of saving and investment products.

Over the coming months we will be announcing some exciting offerings for Irish customers who are increasingly rejecting the old ways of doing business as they look to take their investment and saving decisions into their own hands. In the coming months we’ll look to introduce a ten year term deposit for personal and business savers. If that’s not long term commitment! And we’ll also be looking to expand our fund range allowing investors to take advantage of the opportunities this current market can offer.

There’s been much talk about level playing fields in the Irish banking sector and, while this remains naturally an issue, our main priority at RaboDirect is to make sure customers are given transparent information on the range of financial products available to them. We’ve always been about straight talking and offering simple products without the jargon. And this continues to be met with great positivity by our customers.

As I have already said, unfortunately many banks still offer fantastic promotional rates, but I am afraid that those savings rates are no longer sustainable. At the end of the day, banks need to get back to a healthy business model where margins are positive again. This will allow them to play a key and critical role in returning the Irish economy to a steady footing.

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25 Comments

Comment by Ruairi on 11-02-2010 10:14 | Quote


Dear Mr Van Veggel

I read your comments with interest. Rabobank still has a AAA rating - do you expect that you will retain this rating throughout 2010?

Also - would it be possible for Irish deposit account holders to move their deposits into another currency (e.g Swiss Francs) in the event that the Euro got into difficulties?

Many thanks

Ruairi

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 12-02-2010 11:01 | Quote


Dear Ruairi Thanks for your comment. Indeed Rabobank group maintains its triple A ratings from the major credit rating institution and we are confident that we can maintain those ratings throughout 2010. Unfortunately we currently do not offer accounts in other currencies. rgds Roel

Comment by Declan on 15-02-2010 01:31 | Quote


De Heer van Veggel,

If Ireland gets kicked out of the Euro because of the misbehaviour of Irish "D4 culture" banks, will Rabobank be able to maintain it's independence, and avoid compulsory conversion of Irish deposits from the Euro to any new currency, call it the Punt 2.0, which will be forced through via the Irish government and possibly the ECB ?

I have seen how far the political and media establishments in this country will go to protect the business establishment. The term 'circling the wagons' often arises.

Thanks, Declan.

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 16-02-2010 04:16 | Quote


Thanks Declan and I still think this is an extremely unlikely scenario you are referring to. And at this stage it is difficult to give a definitive answer to your question, because we do not know what relevant laws, regulations and procedures will be in place by the time this scenario should become reality. But to just give you my thinking on this:

It is highly likely that account holders will be given the option of their accounts flipping into a new Irish currency or to maintain a euro account. Again, Any such changes would be contingent on new legislative arrangements in Ireland which govern RaboDirects Terms and Conditions and the decision of the Bank.

In any case, we would expect a long lead time, as there was with the adoption of the euro, during which you would have time to decide and I would expect many banks, amongst which ourselves, will continue to offer Euro accounts

Comment by paddyjones on 23-02-2010 10:35 | Quote


As many of the Euro countries are lumbered with huge debts is it fair to say that interest rates will be low for many years to come as any increases will only lead to higher national debt interest charges?

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 25-02-2010 05:24 | Quote


Dear Paddy,

Thanks for your comments.

We are not in the business of predicting rates. But currently it’s the view of most analyst and commentators that indeed lower rates are here to stay for quite a while.

rgds
Roel

Comment by con dublin on 26-02-2010 11:14 | Quote


I really like the convenience of Rabo direct, but the rates being paid are off the market now and have been for some time. I , for one, am moving my funds to a higher rate elsewhere.

Comment by Ger on 03-03-2010 03:15 | Quote


How much euros are guaranteed on a single account holder,and for what period of time is it guaranteed.

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 03-03-2010 03:20 | Quote


Hi Ger,

Since RaboDirect is a direct branch of Rabobank Netherlands we are covered under the dutch deposit guarantee system which guarantees up to 100.000 euro’s per individual. There is no indication that this system will soon change. Also it is good to realize that the triple A rated rabobank is very solid. So instead of focusing on the various guarantee systems it probably makes more sense to focus on the status of the banks.

Roel

Comment by Gerry Dublin on 04-03-2010 03:42 | Quote


I have to agree with Con. A rate of 2% gross amount to 1.5% net of DIRT. Despite govermment proaganda about low inflation/deflation, money is losing value at this rate. There comes a time when it is plainly foolish to leave money on deposit at 1.5%. Trouble is with advancing age and recent markets history I have no confidence in 'investing'. Sadly I have to close accounts and look elsewhere despite my liking for Rabobank

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 04-03-2010 03:50 | Quote


Hi Gerry,

With an ECB rate of 1% and a on demand product with hardly any T&C’s, the 2% we offer is a very decent rate. Unfortunately there is currently no room for rate increases without jeopardizing a sensible underlying business model. My guess is that many of the headline rates with loads of T&S’s offered by our competitors will also go down very soon…

Roel

Comment by Ciarán on 05-03-2010 12:01 | Quote


Hi Roel,

As an ordinary punter, angry with Irish banks, I would like to see Rabo introduce a cuurent account and ATM card, just so I can put my salary in to it. Are there any plans/talk of this? - there would be no need for overdrfat/credit facilities , just a simple current account.

Regards.

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 05-03-2010 12:20 | Quote


Hi Ciaran,

Thanks for your comment. At this moment we do not have plans to enter the market of current accounts, atm etc. That would mean a complete different business and cost model and in the current Irish markets that is not a viable option for us.

Roel

Comment by Ruairi on 06-03-2010 05:47 | Quote


Dear Mr Van Veggel

Although I accept this is a remote possibility - in the event of the collapse of the Euro - is there any chance that Rabodirect might offer us the option of converting our deposits to swiss based deposit accounts in Swiss francs untouchable by the EU / Irish government?

In the circumstances I would be happy to accept 0% interest ! I see this option as not a long term investment - but more as an insurance policy in the event of the collapse of the single currency

Assuming having such an account is legal for an Irish citizen (and I am unclear if this is the case) is there any reason why rabodirect could not provide this option in the future? I suspect you would have considerable demand even allowing for 0% interest.

Personally I would be happier knowing that some of my savings were sitting in a 0% swiss bank "just in case"

Many thanks

Ruairi

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 06-03-2010 05:10 | Quote


Hi Ruairi,

As you said it is a highly unlikely case that Ireland would drop out (or forced out) the Euro zone. In fact, there is currently no legislation which would allow for such a thing to happen. Adapting the EURO is an irrevocable process……
At this moment we are looking into the possibility to offer FX accounts at RaboDirect but I do not think they will become available soon.

Putting your Euro’s at a triple A rated bank like ours is still a good option if you are looking for safety.

Roel

Comment by Fin on 09-03-2010 06:05 | Quote


Dear Mr Van Veggel

I was an avid investor with Rabo up until recently. I weekly transferred savings into my Rabo account and was delighted to watch it grow.
Unfortunately now that AIB is charging me 20 cent for every transfer in and out of my account and the reduced interest rates I'm left wondering, Is it really worth it.
By the way, I liked Rabo and still do like you guys the easy way to invest in funds was super, how about equities now?

Comment by Gina McCrudden on 12-03-2010 05:41 | Quote


Hi Fin

Thanks for your message. We realise many of the banks have increased their charges over the last few weeks and AIB may well be one of them.
We’re big fans of savers and investors shopping around for the best deal for them and would suggest finding out who still offers free banking services if this is an important feature to you.

We’re delighted you like our investment fund offering too.

Regarding Equities, our Investments Manager Killian Nolan says:

I believe the equity market will continue to rally during the first half of 2010 following positive earnings growth and continued positive surprises in both industrial production and household consumption. The outlook beyond the second quarter remains uncertain and relies on further positive data and earnings revisions

With this in mind, I think the best way to play the equity markets is to drip feed your funds into the market. This will reduce your risk and smooth out the peaks and the troughs.

Thanks again for emailing.
We appreciate all feedback.

Gina

Comment by PATRICK O'SULLIVAN on 28-03-2010 05:07 | Quote


Dear Van,i am about to send my incomes continuous payment(monthly),invalidity pention, and ocupational injury benefit to you,directly from the resourses i am getting them from.Looking at all the hidden inuendo's,would it be better,when i would need some money from my account with you,to have it sent to a savings account or a current account,that i have with the bank of ireland.regards.paddy


Comment by Alan on 29-03-2010 12:08 | Quote


Dear Mr Van Veggel, In the event of an Irish withdrawal from the euro, would term deposits remain denominated in EUR/Dutch Kroner/Deutchmark. This is important because if one wishes to put away money for 10 years, it is comforting to know it will remain in a hard currency. Also, how about providing access to funds that inversely track major market indices to satisfy those who don't like equities?

Comment by Mr Chris Walters on 04-04-2010 06:15 | Quote


I'm a every day account holder with POSTBANK and i will have to find to my knowldge another bank to save with as i have a contract with Hutchinson 3G Broadband to whom i have a direct debit arrangement .. Now i don't want to bank with the bailed out banks for obvious reasons , so could you please give me advice on an alternative .. If i banked with Rabo Direct would i be able to pay my bills by direct debit?.. I asked 3G if there was an alternative , they said there is , but they would charge me 4.50 euro each month .. It appears to me that i'm going to be fleeced where ever i go ... christy j walters

Comment by mary hynes on 05/05/2010 08:25 | Quote


I am appalled at the lack of communication which has caused me a lot of anxiety these last weeks not knowing what should I do with my Premier Saver account. I got tired waiting and have now moved my money elsewhere but that obviously does not concern you, or does it? I am surprised to see RaboDirect are still open for business. I guess it is to enable clients to close their accounts, it is hardly to do fresh business? It would be nice to know. I would welcome your views on this matter and clarify your position. Thank you

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 14/05/2010 11:21 | Quote


Dear Mary,

As I am unclear to what Premium saver you refer to (we at RaboDirect do not have one) I can only comment on your remarks on open for business and I can be absolutely clear about the commitment of RaboDirect to Ireland. We are here to stay, looking to build our business further, doing fresh business everyday , so yes we are very much open for new business!

Roel

Comment by Ross on 27/06/2010 08:35 | Quote


Dear Mr van Veggel,

In reply above you suggested that if Ireland withdraws from the eurozone there's likely to be a long run in period.

This seems highly unlikely as there would be a rush of people moving cash into RaboDirect accounts if they can remain denominated in hard Dutch euros.

The message I'm taking here is that my RaboDirect account is not a protection for us being forced out of the euro.

If you have more encouraging words I'd be all ears.

Comment by Roel van Veggel | General Manager RaboDirect on 30/06/2010 02:07 | Quote


Dear Ross

Again this is a highly unlikely scenario and there are currently no such things as Irish euro’s and Dutch euro’s. But also we really are discussing a hypothetical situation where nobody knows how things would evolve and what legal framework would be in place. To try an suggest a 100% definitive answer on this question is not possible as there are too many unknowns.

What I can guarantee you though is that RaboDirect will always look after the best interest of it’s customers what ever happens.

rgds
Roel

Comment by RaboDirect on 26-07-2011 12:00 | Quote

 

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